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what's the obama white house saying about all of this? >> they're effectively saying that the economy, while it's still weak, is showing signs that the president's policies are working, that his agenda is finally getting traction in the economy. here's what the president had to say. >> there are too many middle class families that are still struggling to pay the bills. they were struggling long before the crisis hit. but today's news certainly is not an excuse to try and talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> that was friday right after the jobs numbers came out. i'll point out two meaningful things about those jobs numbers. one, you recall when his stimulus plan came out somebody in his administration said with the stimulus plan. it was never a promise, a projection. symbolically it's meaningful this is now below 8%. also now it's fallen for the first time not because fewer people are looking for jobs. actually, the number of people looking for jobs r
what's the obama white house saying about all of this? >> they're effectively saying that the economy, while it's still weak, is showing signs that the president's policies are working, that his agenda is finally getting traction in the economy. here's what the president had to say. >> there are too many middle class families that are still struggling to pay the bills. they were struggling long before the crisis hit. but today's news certainly is not an excuse to try and talk down...
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president obama suggested the u.s. will save money by winding down the wars in iraq and afghanistan. the truth, the wars have been funded with borrowed money. so ending them only means less borrowing, not a new pool of available cash. then there was romney's claim that the president's healthcare plan creates an unelected board to tell people what kind of treatments they can v the truth is the board looks at overall medicare costs by law doesn't have the power to tell doctors what treatments they can prescribe. starting today, president obama and mitt romney weigh in on the issues in an exclusive presidential forum on cbssf.com. today's issue, the economy. >>> 4:33. developing news from the south bay. two homicide investigations in san jose. the city's 36th homicide of the year happened about 12:30 this morning. a man was killed in east san jose. someone old fire on the victim and other people standing near a home. police think it was gang- related. there are no suspects. >>> there was a fight on south second street in
president obama suggested the u.s. will save money by winding down the wars in iraq and afghanistan. the truth, the wars have been funded with borrowed money. so ending them only means less borrowing, not a new pool of available cash. then there was romney's claim that the president's healthcare plan creates an unelected board to tell people what kind of treatments they can v the truth is the board looks at overall medicare costs by law doesn't have the power to tell doctors what treatments...
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obama got bin laden. i'll get big bird. you tell that so and so romney anyone who bleeps with big bird bleeps with me. big bird even extended his middle finger at the candidate. >> and you're going to count on one that we all know and love. >> reporter: big bird started his own big bird parody account. reacted by crying and showed up in a deployment split screen. >> i like pbs. i like big bird. >> reporter: his reaction was a scream. >> not going to keep spending on money to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> aghh! >> reporter: his response included a message. >> f-u-m-i -- >> reporter: a message spilled out for myth. and this isn't the first time that mitt romney has stalked big bird. >> i like big bird and bert and ernie for my grandkids to like. >> reporter: o. >> he got rid of your jobs, now he wants to get rid of big bird's job. >> reporter: day after the debate the president joined in. >> thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird! we didn't know that big bird was driving the federal deficit.
obama got bin laden. i'll get big bird. you tell that so and so romney anyone who bleeps with big bird bleeps with me. big bird even extended his middle finger at the candidate. >> and you're going to count on one that we all know and love. >> reporter: big bird started his own big bird parody account. reacted by crying and showed up in a deployment split screen. >> i like pbs. i like big bird. >> reporter: his reaction was a scream. >> not going to keep spending...
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here is my question for obama. i know he likes to say he does not watch cable television, but maybe he should start. listen to the stuff he got away with. the latest thing we got from romney was show people in the emergency room if they are poor. you don't have any care for these people. what are you talking about? we have it on tape, governor, what you think about these people. don't say you care about old people because you met somebody at a campaign event. you have ignored 47% of the people before you came out tonight. there is a hot debate going on in this country. it is being held here on this network. we have our knives out. we go after the facts. he was like, an hour and a half, i think i can get through this thing. i am coming out an incumbent. you have to be the champ, and i am going to begin tonight. i don't care what this moderator things, because i am going to ignore him. what was from the doing? he was winning. >> mr. romney was not specific because he wants to leave it up to the states, and rightly so
here is my question for obama. i know he likes to say he does not watch cable television, but maybe he should start. listen to the stuff he got away with. the latest thing we got from romney was show people in the emergency room if they are poor. you don't have any care for these people. what are you talking about? we have it on tape, governor, what you think about these people. don't say you care about old people because you met somebody at a campaign event. you have ignored 47% of the people...
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now he disavows the comments, perhaps in time for the debate when president obama is expected to be ready for attack. >> thank you. >>> sue herrera has visited us from cnbc headquarters today here in our studios, by the way, the markets reacted in a big way today as job news, stocks closed at the highest level today in nearly five years, as you sue, know, all too well. what does it mean? >> i think it was a good report in one sense in that the economy is continuing to add jobs, but it was not a great report. we need to continue to see better numbers than this. 150 or 200,000 new jobs created for the next few months to get us back to levels of much better unemployment. it is a start but not a good report. >> as we saw in andrea's set-up piece, the combination of the retired executive with the twitter account made some trouble for the president today. the comments aside, in your experience can numbers like this be manipulated at all? >> no, because it is a difficult number to put together, that is for a reason, because they don't want it to be manipulated. they're put together by two separa
now he disavows the comments, perhaps in time for the debate when president obama is expected to be ready for attack. >> thank you. >>> sue herrera has visited us from cnbc headquarters today here in our studios, by the way, the markets reacted in a big way today as job news, stocks closed at the highest level today in nearly five years, as you sue, know, all too well. what does it mean? >> i think it was a good report in one sense in that the economy is continuing to add...
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why did obama look down a lot? >> he was surprised and was caught a little off guard by how well prepared romney was for this debate. quite frankly i was too. i think i was looking down because he was nervous for that reason. i think he was also looking down at his notes trying to find points to i can ma. in -- points to make. that being said he lacked a lot of details. and while he caught obama on a bad day, he needs to be prepared for the next one. i don't think obama will make the same mistake twice. >> statistically you don't get two big debate showings in a roa. you don't beat the team 14-0 two days in a row. >> can't obama say the 40 percent video is a bad thing. or will that look lame that he is pushing that point. >> did he miss the window? >> i don't think it is about bane or the 47%. when fer you are doing -- when ever you are doing a debate, you are bound to miss some, but he missed all but one. >> everyone supporting obama wanted him to be angry and jump on romney when he was playing fast and loose with
why did obama look down a lot? >> he was surprised and was caught a little off guard by how well prepared romney was for this debate. quite frankly i was too. i think i was looking down because he was nervous for that reason. i think he was also looking down at his notes trying to find points to i can ma. in -- points to make. that being said he lacked a lot of details. and while he caught obama on a bad day, he needs to be prepared for the next one. i don't think obama will make the same...
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you've got romney obama debate. big bird. >> and jobs. so we see the focus on it was mostly about the economy, you see the focus on the substance of this debate as opposed to just the zingers and squabbling between the candidates and i was fascinated by the role of xbox. >> xbox is a controller you can use in your living room to play games on your television set and there's a subscription called xbox live. you can play with people by using a game controller. well, what happened last night is that xbox decided to let the video of the debate stream and they posed questions to gameers saying "at this moment who would you vote for?" immediately you had obama 75% of the gamers say yes or mitt romney 10% of the gamers say yes. it's a big figure but you get the point. >> even though this is only about 10,000 participated in this microsoft game, these are mostly younger men, 18 to 29 not plugged into politics who are harder to reach and the fact that they were engaged in answering these questions about presidential debate i think is a watershed m
you've got romney obama debate. big bird. >> and jobs. so we see the focus on it was mostly about the economy, you see the focus on the substance of this debate as opposed to just the zingers and squabbling between the candidates and i was fascinated by the role of xbox. >> xbox is a controller you can use in your living room to play games on your television set and there's a subscription called xbox live. you can play with people by using a game controller. well, what happened last...
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obama and his liberal allies? we can't afford four more years. [ romney] i'm mitt romney and i approve this message. we can't afford four more years. number of students that wea lot of problehave.th the... resources. materials. things that the children need... on a day-to-day basis. anncr: question seven will help. the department of legislative services says question seven... will mean hundreds of millions of dollars... for schools...from gaming revenues that would have... gone to other states. and independent audits will guarantee the money... goes where it's supposed to. krystal conwell: i think people should vote for question... seven because i think it will be a great benefit to children. seven because i think it will be a great benefit to children. these appliances could have been made here in america. but a company called global tech maximized profits by paying its workers next to nothing... under sweatshop conditions in china. when mitt romney led bain, they saw global tech as a good investment... even know
obama and his liberal allies? we can't afford four more years. [ romney] i'm mitt romney and i approve this message. we can't afford four more years. number of students that wea lot of problehave.th the... resources. materials. things that the children need... on a day-to-day basis. anncr: question seven will help. the department of legislative services says question seven... will mean hundreds of millions of dollars... for schools...from gaming revenues that would have... gone to other states....
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obama will come face to face in a debate. if you were jim wednesday night, where these issues are concerned, at the economy, how we avoid what has happened already, how we avoid falling into another recession, around those issues, what ought to be debated wednesday night? >> they should be challenged about whether we want a sustainable financial system. will both presidents appoint people to their economic team who will see the economic interest of the people probably? -- broadly? will they appoint regulators who will be independent of wall street? will they support them when they need to make decisions? will this president protect regulators when congress tries to beat up on them? did they recognize the crucial connection between our economic growth and prosperity? tavis: if you were going to appoint regulators and others not connected to wall street without looking for names, where would you look for those types of people? whenever you talk about financial issues, the people who in-depth writing these institutions -- to end
obama will come face to face in a debate. if you were jim wednesday night, where these issues are concerned, at the economy, how we avoid what has happened already, how we avoid falling into another recession, around those issues, what ought to be debated wednesday night? >> they should be challenged about whether we want a sustainable financial system. will both presidents appoint people to their economic team who will see the economic interest of the people probably? -- broadly? will...
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i think president obama will take it much more seriously. it will be a sign whether he asks bill clinton for help. bill clinton was not only a good debater, but he was almost demonic in his preparation. he debated for full 90-minute blocks endlessly. it is very hard to get a candidate to do a 90-minute block. they will do five minutes here, 15 minutes here. you do it endlessly and watch the video tapes and say, "was that gesture correct? was my facial expression right? should i look at him? should i look away?" you need to do that because this is a performance you are giving. >> we look forward to that. thank you very much. now to jordan where the biggest political demonstration in years has taken place. thousands of people answer the call of the muslim brotherhood and took to the streets demanding political reform, but they stopped short of calling for the monarchy to give up its role in jordanian politics. >> this is the famous old mosque. it has become a focal point for those protesters calling for widespread democratic changes in their c
i think president obama will take it much more seriously. it will be a sign whether he asks bill clinton for help. bill clinton was not only a good debater, but he was almost demonic in his preparation. he debated for full 90-minute blocks endlessly. it is very hard to get a candidate to do a 90-minute block. they will do five minutes here, 15 minutes here. you do it endlessly and watch the video tapes and say, "was that gesture correct? was my facial expression right? should i look at...
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where was obama tonight? >> progressives from chris matthews to bill maher to michael moore all across the progressive wing of the democratic party, there's great disappointment. >> they were jumping out of their seats watching. >> i understand. i understand there was a hunger for us to attack romney more personally than the president did last night. >> bottom line, romney scores, but was last night the first to game-change his campaign and what they sorely needed? >> the only loophole he had enough courage to mention last night was big bird and public broadcasting. >> i think governor strickland was watching a different debate from me and the american people. >> yeah, big bird got hit by the bus last night. joining me is ed schultz, good to have you here. i was watching you last night, your immediate reaction saying that the president was off his game. you were stunned. and then you had this exchange with david plouffe from the obama campaign after the debate. take a look. >> mr. plouffe, why didn't the pres
where was obama tonight? >> progressives from chris matthews to bill maher to michael moore all across the progressive wing of the democratic party, there's great disappointment. >> they were jumping out of their seats watching. >> i understand. i understand there was a hunger for us to attack romney more personally than the president did last night. >> bottom line, romney scores, but was last night the first to game-change his campaign and what they sorely needed?...
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obama -- >> go up under bush. >> by a fraction. >> it went went up over obama a lot. >> the producer says we have to wrap this up. republican strategist, democrat strategist, brendan daly, thank you so much for coming in tonight. we appreciate it. and don't be surprised if you hear people talking about big bird tomorrow as well. the sesame staple was trending on twitter tonight along with the word zingers and cheesecake. people are talking about the cheesecake factory. they are also talking about big bird because romney mentioned the bird when he said he cut subsidies to pbs. take a listen. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i love big board, i like you, too. >> robny would cut it. the comment, as you might imagine, received a massive response online. >>> george washington students held a watch party on campus tonight. most of the students we talked to say they are relieved the candidates are finally getting down to the issues and putting the attack ads behind them. they agreed this year the college vote will influence who comes out on top. here's what a few stu
obama -- >> go up under bush. >> by a fraction. >> it went went up over obama a lot. >> the producer says we have to wrap this up. republican strategist, democrat strategist, brendan daly, thank you so much for coming in tonight. we appreciate it. and don't be surprised if you hear people talking about big bird tomorrow as well. the sesame staple was trending on twitter tonight along with the word zingers and cheesecake. people are talking about the cheesecake factory....
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mitt smoked obama! metaphorically, of course, mormons can't smoke! and folks, after last night's debate in denver our image of these two men has completely changed. and i am not the only one who knows it. >> it looked like romney wanted to be there and president obama didn't want to be there. >> stephen: yes! it was like obama wasn't even there. he hasn't done this poorly since he debated clint eastwood. (laughter) meanwhile-- (cheers and applause) meanwhile, romney was the alpha mitt, slapping obama around. and, anyone else who got in mitt away. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i will stop other things. i like pbs. i like big bird, i actually like you too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money for things to borrow from china to pay for it. >> stephen: he just told the moderator who works at pbs, i'm going to throw your ass out on the street, old man! you-- (cheers and applause) you, not only you-- but all those freeloading muppets. that takes not just one ball, but two, two enormous balls! (applause) but, folks, as much
mitt smoked obama! metaphorically, of course, mormons can't smoke! and folks, after last night's debate in denver our image of these two men has completely changed. and i am not the only one who knows it. >> it looked like romney wanted to be there and president obama didn't want to be there. >> stephen: yes! it was like obama wasn't even there. he hasn't done this poorly since he debated clint eastwood. (laughter) meanwhile-- (cheers and applause) meanwhile, romney was the alpha...
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obama and his liberal allies? we can't afford four more years. [ romney] i'm mitt romney and i approve this message. >>> making headlines this morning, teachers in chicago have finally voted to approve a new contract. it's three-year agreement that includes pay increases and a new evaluation system. the contracts must now be approved bit chicago board of education. you will recall teachers walked off the job last month canceling class for 350,000 students for seven days. they finally agreed to suspend the strike pending the outcome of the official contract vote. >>> a former prince george's county fire department official who pleaded guilty to extortion, conspiracy and tax evasion has been sentenced to a year and a half in prison. prosecutors say carl grandow bribed public officials in exchange for a development near a metro station that he had financial interest in. >>> maryland governor martin o'malley is peeking out against penn national gaming. he says the casino is running false ads against question seven on
obama and his liberal allies? we can't afford four more years. [ romney] i'm mitt romney and i approve this message. >>> making headlines this morning, teachers in chicago have finally voted to approve a new contract. it's three-year agreement that includes pay increases and a new evaluation system. the contracts must now be approved bit chicago board of education. you will recall teachers walked off the job last month canceling class for 350,000 students for seven days. they finally...
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. >> we were eating and we heard the sound obama. the shrapnel fell, hit the wall and in the ground. we could have been killed. -- we heard the sound of the bomb. syria has apologized for the debts, but those of fear another accidental strike. >> we are scared to death. we don't know when another reporter is going to be fired. we are targets and we are really frightened by what is happening. >> this afternoon, the prime minister of turkey won approval from parliament for military operations inside syria. >> we just want peace and security in our region. this is what we care about. we have no intention to go to war. >> turkey is strong enough to protect its borders and no one should test that. >> to reinforce this point, the turkish military stations next to the border. some in this country are worried by where this may lead. tonight in a stumble, a crowd demonstrated against war. hacker -- tonight in istanbul, crowd demonstrated against the war. the conflict has already arrived. at night, we found deserted streets. many here have led
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do you think the obama camp knew mr. romney would be ready with the 47% question answer and decided not give him the chance to clear it up with 65, 67 million people watching? >> definitely a missed opportunity. you see it today. they're going to keep attacking him noor video and keep attacking him on bain and you're seeing him release the president's campaign release another -- >> pardon? go ahead. i'm sorry. interrupted? somebody talk in your ear. >> sorry about that. >> finish your thought. >> you're going to see them attack again. they're going to keep attacking on -- keep saying that mitt romney is bending the truth. that's something you're going to see in the coming weeks. you're going to see them talk -- they released a campaign ad today appearing in eight swing states and you'll see them continue to the portray that in the comes weeks. >> it's an acquired skill, talking in your ear in the middle of a sentence. >> totally. i didn't know where i was for a minute. >> it's all good. saying it wasn't me. we're going t
do you think the obama camp knew mr. romney would be ready with the 47% question answer and decided not give him the chance to clear it up with 65, 67 million people watching? >> definitely a missed opportunity. you see it today. they're going to keep attacking him noor video and keep attacking him on bain and you're seeing him release the president's campaign release another -- >> pardon? go ahead. i'm sorry. interrupted? somebody talk in your ear. >> sorry about that....
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it made its point and barak obama just let it pass. he didn't do anything to resist it. >> bret: how is the obama campaign going to bounce back or planning on bouncing back here? >> i think they're planning on doing a better job next time. and in terms of chris christie was saying this could change the entire narrative, that's an overstatement. one debate is not going to change the entire narrative. it keeps the race going. i think that a lot of people going in thought that romney was sort of on the ropes and a lot of obama supporters wanted a knockout punch and they didn't get it. but the next debate is a town hall format, which is going to i think, be good for the president and he's somebody who has some sort of psychological issue where he has to always be behind. so did he this with hillary and mccain of the he always has to be behind. i would expect he'll come back the next time probably a lot stronger. >> bret: dr. charles krauthammer, any comments? >> i'm still licensed, but i don't practice on the air. i play a physician on the
it made its point and barak obama just let it pass. he didn't do anything to resist it. >> bret: how is the obama campaign going to bounce back or planning on bouncing back here? >> i think they're planning on doing a better job next time. and in terms of chris christie was saying this could change the entire narrative, that's an overstatement. one debate is not going to change the entire narrative. it keeps the race going. i think that a lot of people going in thought that romney...
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just 25 percent said president obama did. a cbs news poll of uncommitted voters who watched the debate was interesting. 46% of them say mitt romney won. 22% believe the president came out on top. 32% say it was a tie. so, it was a good night for governor romney indeed. now, what does this mean going forward? number one, the romney campaign is energized. it will be easier to raise money. number two, the president's attack ads on television against romney not going to be taken as seriously because the folks have seen the governor definite himself effectively. number three, president obama will lose some steam in the polls, and with the adoring media. but, and this is big: mr. obama will come back hard on october 16th. you can count on that. governor romney has to, again, be on his game. two more things. from the very beginning of the campaign, i said the debates will tell the tale. >> bill: what mitt romney absolutely has to do, if he hopes to defeat president obama is win the three debates. now, we have seen the governor debat
just 25 percent said president obama did. a cbs news poll of uncommitted voters who watched the debate was interesting. 46% of them say mitt romney won. 22% believe the president came out on top. 32% say it was a tie. so, it was a good night for governor romney indeed. now, what does this mean going forward? number one, the romney campaign is energized. it will be easier to raise money. number two, the president's attack ads on television against romney not going to be taken as seriously...
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obama took a licking last night. the public knows that and now to suggest that the facts support what his position is supposed to be i don't think carries. >> you know, i got to ask you a personal question about the president. you know, i do look up to him in so many ways. when i'm with him i say to myself and i do this objectively, i list be to him after he's briefed us on something, this guy ought to be president. he has the command of the issues. he has scope. he has relevance. he can talk to you as regular person in common english as well as the wonk talk. he has an iq that is way up there. yet last night he was tongue tied. he let the other guy own the room. what do you think was on his mind before we get on to romney. i know you think a lot about this and care a lot, mayor. >> i think what happened last night is i think barack obama frankly went to sleep. he had anticipated being perceived as arrogant, being perceived as a genius, being perceived as taking advantage of a lesser, and he decided to back off of al
obama took a licking last night. the public knows that and now to suggest that the facts support what his position is supposed to be i don't think carries. >> you know, i got to ask you a personal question about the president. you know, i do look up to him in so many ways. when i'm with him i say to myself and i do this objectively, i list be to him after he's briefed us on something, this guy ought to be president. he has the command of the issues. he has scope. he has relevance. he can...
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>> what barack obama and mitt romney have to address is a kind of middle-class malaise, a perception that while the rich will take care of themselves, and the poor will be taken care of by the state, people in the beenle have somehow b forgotten. this is what the middle class dream was supposed to look like. >> 1950's middletown. >> folbaumike, well, i think he did a decent job but i don't like his health-care plan. -- obama, well, i think he did a different job. mitt romney is a decent job. him being as rich as he is, i don't think that he would understand a middle class person's problems. >> as a halloween decorations go up, the next generation is thinking as if trickle treat. >> clearly, the economic pain is still being felt here four years after the financial crisis. there are new moves to punish those responsible for the meltdown. the new york attorney general has launched a lawsuit against jpmorgan chase over accusations that the defrauded mortgage investor to the run-up to the global financial crisis. for more on that, i am joined by michelle in new york. why is jpmorgan being
>> what barack obama and mitt romney have to address is a kind of middle-class malaise, a perception that while the rich will take care of themselves, and the poor will be taken care of by the state, people in the beenle have somehow b forgotten. this is what the middle class dream was supposed to look like. >> 1950's middletown. >> folbaumike, well, i think he did a decent job but i don't like his health-care plan. -- obama, well, i think he did a different job. mitt romney...
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but the fact that i had to point that out on the air tonight is an illustration of what barack obama didn't do. the president frankly should have been politely in his face, saying that's not accurate, just like the presentation about romney's health care program. the president should have merely said the governor is being a hypocrite. he did this in massachusetts. and the president frankly didn't do that tonight. i think that's the reason that people said that they gave the nod to mitt romney tonight. in the end, we've seen how people are going to vote in november. we've got two more debates to do. i think you'll see a different barack obama in two weeks. >> joe is going to be with us next week for the vice presidential debate, giving us analysis then. >> thanks so much. >>> you know, it would take hours for a full debate fact check, so we're just going to look at two, courtesy of the associated press. president obama suggested that the united states will save money by winding down the wars in iraq and afghanistan. the truth? the wars were funded with borrowed money, so ending them o
but the fact that i had to point that out on the air tonight is an illustration of what barack obama didn't do. the president frankly should have been politely in his face, saying that's not accurate, just like the presentation about romney's health care program. the president should have merely said the governor is being a hypocrite. he did this in massachusetts. and the president frankly didn't do that tonight. i think that's the reason that people said that they gave the nod to mitt romney...
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and president obama wasn't a winner either. he lacked aggression. he we'd like you to leave your comments by going to our facebook page wusa9. >>> the economy and jobs will be an important part of the election. jessica is here with our local jobs picture and it's pretty good compared to the rest of the country. >> this is another situation where we're saying thank goodness we live in the washington region. the latest unemployment figures are out. let's take a look. at 5.5%, the washington metro area continues to have the lowest unemployment rate of the nation's major job markets. unemployment down all over. northern virginia came in at 4.3%, down from 4.8% at this time last year. suburban maryland stood at 6%, town from 6.2%. d.c. 8.8%. that was down from 10.4% this time last year. things are looking good right now but they may not continue to do so. >> when i first got here, it was always about the federal government and contractors made this place recession proof until we heard the word sequestration. and that's going to take a big hit on this are
and president obama wasn't a winner either. he lacked aggression. he we'd like you to leave your comments by going to our facebook page wusa9. >>> the economy and jobs will be an important part of the election. jessica is here with our local jobs picture and it's pretty good compared to the rest of the country. >> this is another situation where we're saying thank goodness we live in the washington region. the latest unemployment figures are out. let's take a look. at 5.5%, the...